Episode 322 with Guy & Ilan Ferdman

In Today's Episode:

  • Futility of Controlling Thoughts and Emotions
    Guy and Ilan emphasize the futility of attempting to control negative thoughts and difficult emotions, advocating instead for shifting one's relationship to them through mindfulness and awareness practices.
  • Turning Inwards to Face Darkness and Pain
    Guy and Ilan delve into the importance of turning inwards to confront suppressed darkness and pain, highlighting the courage and support needed for self-liberation from mental suffering.
  • Commit to Discomfort for Transformation
    They emphasize to sitting with discomfort as a crucial for transformation, allowing experiences to move through one's system for healing rather than avoiding discomfort.
  • The Process is Infinite and Ongoing
    The host discuss the ongoing nature of the self-work and awakening process, stressing the need for constant inward awareness rather than seeking quick fixes.
  • No Savior, Focus on Your Own Work
    No teacher can save individuals; each person must take responsibility for their own inner work and awakening process, motivated by pain towards self-realization and liberation.

In this episode 322 of the Old Souls & Seekers podcast, join us as we explore transformative insights into dealing with negative thoughts and difficult mental states. Guy and Ilan share personal journeys and advise on committing to facing discomfort for true liberation.

When you have grace space and the ability to have unconditional love for what's arising within you,  it is no longer an impedance at all.

Guy Ferdman

Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation. Tune in to the latest episode to delve deeper into these insights and embrace the path to personal liberation.


Episode Chapters:

  • Embracing Inner Dynamics:
    • The speakers highlight the futility of striving to control negative thoughts and emotions, urging instead a shift in perspective through mindfulness and awareness practices. (Timestamp: 00:00)
  • Journeying Inward:
    • Exploring the significance of internal exploration, they emphasize the courage needed to confront suppressed pain and darkness, essential for liberating oneself from mental suffering. (Timestamp: 10:25)
  • Embracing Discomfort:
    • Encouraging listeners to embrace discomfort as a catalyst for transformation, they stress the importance of allowing experiences to flow through one's system for healing. (Timestamp: 20:50
  • Eternal Growth:
    • Discussing the perpetual nature of self-growth, they underscore the necessity of continual inward reflection, advocating against seeking fleeting solutions. (Timestamp: 32:15)
  • Personal Responsibility:
    • Emphasizing individual accountability, they assert that personal growth and liberation cannot be outsourced to external sources, but require dedication and self-awareness. (Timestamp: 42:40)

 No one's relationship to anxiety and stress is positive.

Ilan Ferdman


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