Episode 349 with Guy & Ilan Ferdman

In this episode 349 of the Old Souls & Seekers podcast, Guy and Ilan Ferdman explore the crucial role that energetic support plays in personal transformation. They explain how cultivating new energies and seeking the right kind of support can make a significant difference in your healing journey.

In Today's Episode:

  • The Role of Energetic and Physical Support in Healing
    Guy and Ilan dive deep into how both physical and energetic support are essential for personal growth. They emphasize that relying solely on family and friends, who may not fully grasp the healing process, can limit your progress.
  • Building a Supportive Community for Personal Expansion
    A key focus of the episode is on the value of having a community that supports your journey. Rather than seeking empathy, which can sometimes lead to emotional entanglement, Guy advocate for finding a group that offers compassion.
  • Understanding the Body's Energetic Nature
    The body is described as an electromagnetic field that is constantly interacting with its environment. Ilan explore how being open to receiving energetic support allows for deeper healing.
  • The Importance of Cooperation with Life’s Energies
    Instead of resisting life’s challenges or changes, the speakers encourage a mindset of cooperation, allowing for a more harmonious existence with both the body’s energetic field and the world around us.
  • Seeking Passionate and Aligned Support
    The episode wraps up by underscoring the significance of seeking support from individuals who are truly dedicated to their own growth and healing. Surrounding yourself with passionate and like-minded people ensures that you are met with the presence, compassion, and dedication needed to move forward in your personal journey.

If you learn how to increase your range of awareness, you can be in a compassionate state with yourself rather than a state of deep empathy with yourself.

Guy Ferdman


Episode Chapters:

  • 00:03:19 – The Value of Support
    Guy and Ilan discuss the importance of both physical and energetic support in the process of personal growth and healing. They explain how the body, as an electromagnetic field, needs to be open to receiving support. Additionally, they touch on how a community can hold space with compassion, which allows for expansion and the welcoming of new experiences.
  • 00:19:13 – Cooperation and Energetic Exchange
    This section introduces insights from Dr. Zach Bush on the cooperation between humans and microbes/viruses for optimal health. The speakers compare this idea to their own work, emphasizing how working with life’s energies, instead of resisting them, can enhance both physical and energetic health. They also explore the concept of structured water and its benefits for the body’s energy flow.
  • 00:34:08 – Transcending and Including Experiences
    The conversation shifts to the importance of transcending old experiences while including them as valuable lessons. Rather than holding onto outdated perspectives or resisting change, the speakers encourage the audience to allow contrast and new experiences to deepen their understanding and personal wisdom.

  • 00:43:08 – Seeking Passionate Support
    The speakers reiterate the need to find support from people who are deeply committed to their personal development and healing journey. They discuss how relying on family and friends who may not fully understand the transformation process can be limiting. Instead, they urge participants to seek those who are passionate and can meet them with presence, compassion, and a deep understanding of the work.


Having a connection with others who have gone farther down the road a little bit farther than you and can act as a highlighter or magnifying glass for your experiences is incredibly important.

Ilan Ferdman


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