Episode 324 with Guy & Ilan Ferdman

In this episode 324 of the Old Souls & Seekers podcast, Guy and Ilan discuss the misconception of mistaking conditioned thinking for true awareness and the importance of allowing difficult sensations and emotions to flow. Additionally, we explore the role of protector parts and the necessity of consistent practice in sustaining transformative growth.

In Today's Episode:

  • Locating Open Awareness
    Discover how to move beyond conditioned mind and tap into open, contentless awareness for true healing and growth.
  • Embracing Traumatic Energy
    Guy and Ilan explore the power of allowing difficult sensations and emotions to flow, rather than resisting or suppressing them.
  • Understanding Protector Parts
    Learn to reframe inner voices and judger personas as protective allies, fostering healthier communication and relationships.
  • Committing to Consistent Practice
    Delving into the importance of daily repetition in spiritual practices for sustainable transformation and nervous system regulation.
  • Action Items
    Take practical steps with Guy and Ilan towards personal growth and healing through introspection, visualization, and commitment to daily practices.

If it has your best interest at heart and aims for your improvement and evolution, then you get to recreate that level of communication.

Ilan Ferdman


Episode Chapters:

  • Beyond the Conditioned Mind ( 00:05:12 )
    Exploring the misconception of mistaking conditioned thinking for true awareness and discussing techniques to move beyond the conditioned mind and access open, contentless awareness for genuine healing and growth.
  • The Power of Acceptance ( 00:17:45 )
    Examining the detrimental effects of resisting or suppressing difficult sensations and emotions. Allowing these experiences to flow freely and the role it plays in the healing process.
  • Reframing Inner Voices for Healthy Relationships ( 00:30:28 )
    Focusing on the judger personas and explore the intended functions of these inner voices and how to reframe them as protective allies to foster healthier communication and relationships.
  • Nurturing Sustainable Transformation ( 00:45:16 )
    Discuss the significance of committing to consistent practices over an extended period to recondition the nervous system and facilitate lasting change.
  • Steps Towards Growth ( 01:00:02 )
    Providing practical steps towards personal growth and healing. Discuss introspection, visualization, and the commitment to daily practices as essential components of this journey.

 Sensations arise within us are the experience of love towards ourselves, love towards life, love towards the arising within us.

Guy Ferdman


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